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Maintain or Replace?
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:41:09 pm »
This question has probably been asked a thousand times but ya.

I bought my 990 a year & 10,000km ago for a good price; probably R10k less than it should have sold for.
Maybe the seller knew what was coming but since then I've spent around R6,000 in servicing and repairs (water pump), and I'm facing another R25,000 service & repair bill now (throttle bodies and fuel level sensor) of which my aftermarket warranty is paying R11,000.

I've paid enough of the finance that I can sell it for what I owe on it and maybe drown my sorrows with the change. Buying a very low mileage 1200-class replacement now would cost me about R1000pm more, which I can afford but wouldn't leave much room for potential repair costs.

So, do I hang on to the 990 in the hopes that it holds its value and doesn't explode (any more)? Or do I cut my losses and trade up?

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 03:45:09 pm »
Sell it and buy a BMW, then all your troubles will be over...


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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 04:00:11 pm »
Sell it and buy a BMW, then all your troubles will be over...

Ja ja...what to replace it with is an entirely separate debate. 1190R is the likely choice though.

The 990 does everything I want it to and more, and it does it all really, really well. The issue is it's costing me R2000pm in repairs & maintenance. I'd rather put half that into a newer bike.
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 04:04:31 pm »
Sell it and buy a BMW, then all your troubles will be over...

Ja ja...what to replace it with is an entirely separate debate. 1190R is the likely choice though.

The 990 does everything I want it to and more, and it does it all really, really well. The issue is it's costing me R2000pm in repairs & maintenance. I'd rather put half that into a newer bike.

What mileage do you have on the bike?


 

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 04:05:58 pm »
Ja ja...what to replace it with is an entirely separate debate. 1190R is the likely choice though.
The 990 does everything I want it to and more, and it does it all really, really well. The issue is it's costing me R2000pm in repairs & maintenance. I'd rather put half that into a newer bike.
What mileage do you have on the bike?

44000km. Bought it on 35000.
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 04:11:36 pm »
Ja ja...what to replace it with is an entirely separate debate. 1190R is the likely choice though.
The 990 does everything I want it to and more, and it does it all really, really well. The issue is it's costing me R2000pm in repairs & maintenance. I'd rather put half that into a newer bike.
What mileage do you have on the bike?

44000km. Bought it on 35000.

That is still low mileage - have heard of lots of 990s at well over 80k and 100k.

The clutch slave cylinder and the water pump is known issues - that once fixed should not give further issues, but having to replace throttle bodies at 44k does not sound right  :-\
 

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 04:21:06 pm »
By the time you ask this question you have already decided, you may just not know it... replace.
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 04:32:39 pm »
That is still low mileage - have heard of lots of 990s at well over 80k and 100k.
What did it cost to get them there though?

The clutch slave cylinder and the water pump is known issues - that once fixed should not give further issues, but having to replace throttle bodies at 44k does not sound right  :-\

The TPS and idle stepper motor both failed (I'm told).

I'm waiting for the clutch to go, but stuff like cracking exhaust headers, questionable head bearings, front axle clamps that break if you look at them funny...
I get the feeling that an 1190 wouldn't have these weaknesses, or am I wrong?

By the time you ask this question you have already decided, you may just not know it... replace.

 :lol8: yeah I guess so. Maybe I must just get a KLR that I can maintain with the tools and knowledge I have instead of relying on specialists ::)
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 04:39:54 pm »

What did it cost to get them there though?


Mine is on 70 000km, owned it from new for 8 years now. Serviced regularly.
Extraordinary expenses were waterpump shaft seal, new rear header pipe and petrolpump filterkit. (Excluding farkles...)
Oh and I'm on my third front rim.
Other than that it has taken chains, sprockets and loads of tyres... :ricky:
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 04:43:56 pm »
That is still low mileage - have heard of lots of 990s at well over 80k and 100k.
What did it cost to get them there though?

The clutch slave cylinder and the water pump is known issues - that once fixed should not give further issues, but having to replace throttle bodies at 44k does not sound right  :-\

The TPS and idle stepper motor both failed (I'm told).

I'm waiting for the clutch to go, but stuff like cracking exhaust headers, questionable head bearings, front axle clamps that break if you look at them funny...
I get the feeling that an 1190 wouldn't have these weaknesses, or am I wrong?

By the time you ask this question you have already decided, you may just not know it... replace.

 :lol8: yeah I guess so. Maybe I must just get a KLR that I can maintain with the tools and knowledge I have instead of relying on specialists ::)

I just bought a 990 - had 21k on the clock when I got it. So I'm hoping for lots of km's on it.

I wanted to buy a 1090R new but I could not justify spending R110k more than what a low mileage 990 would cost.

I was looking at 1190R but with their dirt eating problems I just could not get myself to buy an 1190R 2nd hand - how do you know it did not eat dirt because of the air filter issue? I have heard of 1190R that had complete engine failure at 13k because of the air filter issue. So that was a risk I was not willing to take.

These bikes are not cheap to maintain that is for sure - I know the 990 will cost me a lot more to keep on the road compared to my Dakar that really did not cost me much to run. In the end you need to make the sums and decide what you are happy with spending on the bike.

 

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 05:16:57 pm »
What's this problematic water pump thing you all talk about??   :pot:
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 05:36:47 pm »
What's this problematic water pump thing you all talk about??   :pot:

It sits right next to the GS HALL sensor  :pot:
 

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 05:52:36 pm »
What's this problematic water pump thing you all talk about??   :pot:

It sits right next to the GS HALL sensor  :pot:

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Appreciate the responses chaps. I guess you place your bets with any vehicle you buy. Myabe after investing R30k in all the shit that can go wrong with this bike it'll give me a good few miles of smiles before anything goes vrot again.

Makes me think that forking out the extra cash for a new (or nearly new) bike under warranty is worthwhile
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2017, 06:08:04 pm »

By the time you ask this question you have already decided, you may just not know it... replace.

 :lol8: yeah I guess so. Maybe I must just get a KLR that I can maintain with the tools and knowledge I have instead of relying on specialists ::)

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 06:20:04 pm »
Yes Iamgiggls, upgrade to a 650KLR.
 

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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 06:31:19 pm »
Get a 950. None of the electronic problems. Mine now over 100k km. But I've done most of the maintenance myself
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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2017, 12:26:32 pm »
Hey Gigglz, I am NOT giggling about this, trust me. Envied you from the moment you drove up to coffee that Friday morning, damn. it looked good. Now, hearing your story and what it cost you, I'm still quite happy with my ride. the problem is, we can discuss it until the cows come home, but it would not change a thing. You have to decide to hang on to it or not and live with the consequences.

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2017, 02:03:14 pm »
Life's to short to spend too much time with one bike :thumleft:.....let a lone time spent having it repaired all the time... :lol8:



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Re: Maintain or Replace?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2017, 02:17:34 pm »
if money is an issue and the bike is generally still in a good condition, I would rather pay the R14k and fix the bike