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Offline Epilot

Skieting toll booths
« on: March 09, 2019, 09:40:07 am »
Apologies if this has been discussed before. Who pays toll fees when on your bike.
I prefer not to, as I donít believe itís fair for a bike to pay the same as a car with a trailer with 4 of my bikes on the back.
The reason for posting this is on a recent trip to Natal I followed a car through the Villiers toll booth and the car got upset with me and braked to stop me in the lane. I was able to ride round them and carry on, but they were really pissed with me.

For legal reasons this might not have happened to me, just putting it out there.
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2019, 10:01:44 am »
The best way is on the far left when a truck goes through, there is enough space to slip past the truck and the booth does not even know you slipped through...not that I ever did this you understand,
it would be breaking the law and also unconstitutional to say the least, so I would naturally refrain from such behavior.
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 10:10:34 am »
I would never have sat on the bumper of a car and run a booth - or a truck for that matter.
That would just be wrong & stuff.
And I REALLY dont like like it when a bike does it to me.....
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2019, 10:14:02 am »
They do have cameras and every once in a while especially when managers are around they actually do a follow up and issue fines which is apparently steep.

I am too much of a bangat,  and law abiding citizen so I just always pay.
 
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2019, 10:15:06 am »
i love moral people , down with immoral laws

if they made child rape legal ....... i still would not rape children
just wanna have fun , and ride ... and ....... ride
 
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2019, 10:29:48 am »
This has been discussed before but itís discussion always worth revisiting in the spirit of banter ( just as one would endlessly debate the resurgence of the Bulls in super-rugby, or whether Julius M woulld have a numberplate on his superbike (red) if he rode one).

Nothwithstanding Straatkatís impeccable uprightness ( :biggrin:), it always behoves  any motorcyclist to transgress WRT issues of tolling in general and N tolling in particular. We live in an era where the individual is subject to bureaucratic oppression at every level, and in the spirit of being on a motorcycle, resistance is a natural modality to occupy.

Along with not displaying a number plate, I love the idea of individuals in an empowering f-you moment, saying no ( to the kakínbetaal ) when faced with the same fees as cars, and sneaking through behind a car, or at best flamboyantly wheelieying past the barrier on the left, Hooligan pipe(s) baying in joy at their transgression.

Hunter Thompson in his seminal book on Hells Angels in the 1960ís unpacked the psychology of the en-caged motorist, with family meekly ensconced, suffering irrational outrage when alongside a motorcycle epitomizing the spirit of rebellion. Such is the potential we have for improving the tedious lives of Ďcagersí as they go through the humdrum routines of being fleeced yet again at toll stations. Itís a gift , isnít it  :laughing4: ...?!?!!!?
 
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2019, 12:38:50 pm »
If you dont pay e-Tolls, why would you pay other tolls?
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2019, 03:05:27 pm »
I only tried it once. The rain was belting down and I was soaked and numb with cold. I really didn't want to stop and fuck around. I noticed  a narrow lane around the back of the far left pay booth, so I went around it.

The noise of the siren scared the shit out of me and nearly blew me off the bike.  :eek7:  I stopped and walked back a few meters and paid. Not a word was exchanged.  :-[
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2019, 03:09:58 pm »
Aaahh that familiar sound when the sirens go off! Read my previous post CAREFULLY!
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2019, 03:23:27 pm »
Never seen a toll booth on dirt roads
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 03:31:26 pm »
Never seen a toll booth on dirt roads

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 04:31:34 pm »
Someone I know who is not me in any way shape or form used to skip the toll gates all the time, his bike didnt have a numberplate fitted so he could give the finger to the etoll people. He had a few people not happy with his behavior but could not see how his behavior could have bothered them or negatively affected any other motorist on the roads, he saw it in the same light as people who tried to block him from lane splitting. They are not negatively impacted in any way shape or form but become outraged when he would try and get past them.

He ignored them and carried on lane splitting and skipping toll gates without any issue at all.
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 05:25:16 pm »
If you tailgate a car close enough you wonít get the siren.
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2019, 08:19:21 pm »
Someone I know who is not me in any way shape or form used to skip the toll gates all the time, his bike didnt have a numberplate fitted so he could give the finger to the etoll people. He had a few people not happy with his behavior but could not see how his behavior could have bothered them or negatively affected any other motorist on the roads, he saw it in the same light as people who tried to block him from lane splitting. They are not negatively impacted in any way shape or form but become outraged when he would try and get past them.

He ignored them and carried on lane splitting and skipping toll gates without any issue at all.

It is a phenomenon called "Sunshine Syndrome" where another (cagers) does not want to see the sunshine upon another(biker, definitely, positively, not 2W Drift)
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 09:00:27 pm »
Know what you are talking about. Those same farkers who dont open a gap for you or shout and act out when you lane split past them.  No impact whatsoever on them, but a case of spiteful envy.

A bit of lawlessness.....dont tell the poms.  They get envious behind their hot beer.. :laughing4:
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2019, 02:22:22 pm »
Someone I know who is not me in any way shape or form used to skip the toll gates all the time, his bike didnt have a numberplate fitted so he could give the finger to the etoll people. He had a few people not happy with his behavior but could not see how his behavior could have bothered them or negatively affected any other motorist on the roads, he saw it in the same light as people who tried to block him from lane splitting. They are not negatively impacted in any way shape or form but become outraged when he would try and get past them.

He ignored them and carried on lane splitting and skipping toll gates without any issue at all.

It is a phenomenon called "Sunshine Syndrome" where another (cagers) does not want to see the sunshine upon another(biker, definitely, positively, not 2W Drift)

I shall tell the other rider that is not in any way shape or form me about this sunshine syndrome, he will probably appreciate it.

The only case where I think lane splitting can actually impact on a drivers is if the bike coming past scares them, I had this once where I coasted through traffic till I got to the front of the que and stopped just behind a woman busy texting. As soon as I pulled away and gave the bike a bit of throttle she go a moerse skrik and freaked out, I laughed so hard I nearly dropped my beer.
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2019, 06:09:12 pm »
I've never done it and never will. Its about your own ethics and values. One can easily push the envilope once you have crossed the line a couple of times. Each person have his own standards and its not for me to judge you but I will rather be part of the solution then part of the problem. If you can do this you csnt judge corrupt government officials, there is no difference.
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2019, 07:35:28 pm »
I've never done it and never will. Its about your own ethics and values. One can easily push the envilope once you have crossed the line a couple of times. Each person have his own standards and its not for me to judge you but I will rather be part of the solution then part of the problem. If you can do this you csnt judge corrupt government officials, there is no difference.

in a sense I agree with you, but just like e-tolls are corrupt and were not communicated properly, normal tolls are unfair towards bikers and have been argued against without govt even considering the reasoning - I don't and will never pay e-tolls and skip normal tolls when the gap is there
 

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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2019, 07:50:52 pm »
In Zimbabwe bikes are exempted from paying toll at toll booths. Instead of taking over the land stealing concept from our neighbours, here is a very positive aspect that can be copied from Zim.   
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Re: Skieting toll booths
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2019, 08:37:44 pm »
I really don't understand why someone skipping a toll should upset anybody else.

Live and let live and stick with your own moral code and don't prescribe to me.