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Offline RobbieH

NOT using a carnet de passage
« on: September 17, 2019, 09:19:14 pm »
Has anyone every travelled up Africa with no carne de passage.

There must be a way.

Im not to happy about going up to Egypt and paying 200% the value of my bike to go into Egypt.

Any ideas ???


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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2019, 09:30:24 pm »
According to me its a must for Egypt. We travelled last year Botswana, zambia, Tanzania, Rwanda, Uganda, Kenia, Malawi, Mozambique and Zimbabwe an the CdP just made everything so much easier and quicker at customs.


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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2019, 10:17:23 pm »
As far as I'm aware, also a must for Egypt. Sudan can also be tricky without one, but can be done.

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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 11:25:07 pm »
Has anyone every travelled up Africa with no carne de passage.

There must be a way.

Im not to happy about going up to Egypt and paying 200% the value of my bike to go into Egypt.

Any ideas ???

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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2021, 04:19:30 pm »
@RobbieH  what did you do in the end?

Are the details somewhere on the forum?
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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2021, 04:26:51 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues
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Offline Tom van Brits

Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2021, 04:48:46 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues

DRC tops my list of counties in Africa to be toured on a motorbike.
I would love to visit places I used to work, and especially places I have spent to Little time like Bukavu but that's only a dream for now.
 

Offline neil-ph

Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 05:05:31 pm »
Have heard from a few bikers about skipping Egypt and taking a ferry to Saudi Arabia from Djibouti......
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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2021, 04:51:25 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues

DRC tops my list of counties in Africa to be toured on a motorbike.
I would love to visit places I used to work, and especially places I have spent to Little time like Bukavu but that's only a dream for now.

Definitely an off road capable bike is required, the mud on some routes can be overwhelming, especially between now and April
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Offline Tom van Brits

Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2021, 04:33:13 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues

DRC tops my list of counties in Africa to be toured on a motorbike.
I would love to visit places I used to work, and especially places I have spent to Little time like Bukavu but that's only a dream for now.

Definitely an off road capable bike is required, the mud on some routes can be overwhelming, especially between now and April

Dsvid we hired normal 125cc chinese motorbikes and never had a problem with the mud. I have spend just of a year doing de mining there in the juingles. Been all over the DRC. It was great fun.
 

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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2021, 04:37:20 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues

DRC tops my list of counties in Africa to be toured on a motorbike.
I would love to visit places I used to work, and especially places I have spent to Little time like Bukavu but that's only a dream for now.


Definitely an off road capable bike is required, the mud on some routes can be overwhelming, especially between now and April

Dsvid we hired normal 125cc chinese motorbikes and never had a problem with the mud. I have spend just of a year doing de mining there in the juingles. Been all over the DRC. It was great fun.

I trevelled the road from Likasi to Kolwezi a few times, in the dry season it was a piece of cake but in the rainy season it would take 3 x as long  :ricky:

But back then in 2006-2008 it was a dirt road 
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Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2021, 04:33:18 pm »
Only as far as DRC, no major issues

DRC tops my list of counties in Africa to be toured on a motorbike.
I would love to visit places I used to work, and especially places I have spent to Little time like Bukavu but that's only a dream for now.

I cannot think of a better bike than the crf300l for a DRC/Africa trip!

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Offline RobbieH

Re: NOT using a carnet de passage
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2021, 06:34:05 am »
@RobbieH  what did you do in the end?

Are the details somewhere on the forum?

I ended up getting a Carnet for 5 countries but a carnet with 5 extra pages.
Basically said i was going to Moz, Malawi, Zim, Tanzania, Zambia. These countries are the cheapest and only small deposite required couoled with the fact that i saod my bike was only worth 80k(1190r).
Paid R12500 deposit.

Rode nonetheless all the way up to Ethiopia, Susan and Saudia Arabis crossed the ferry for port of Sudan to Saudi then on to Dubai. Whete bikes are currently. Although the carnet has a stamp that says it cant be used in UAE nobo flinched and juzt stampped away.

I did meet a guy in Malawi from Belgium who never had a single Carnet and did temp imports all the way down. He said was not an issue. In fact easy!

So to conclude.

Get a carnet pay for 5 countries. Say you want some extra pages at incase you travel further and for return trip per say through same countries.
5 countries means 10 pages trip up and then down if direct route. Then just double up. They cant say no. Just dont mention Egypt or UAE or Saudi. They ask for crazy deposit.

My bike is stuck in UAE and im currently trying to figure a way to cross into Iran and go further. Bike been standing for 1y3months.
Carnet isssue again in Iran as they say its 100% required in Iran but SA AA don't issues carnet for Iran so need to get it somewhere else.

No country border i crossed in Africa had an issue. Some borders never seen a carnet so i just said stamp here and here and i filled in the document for them. Was amazing experience everybody at borders were super helpfull except SA border.

Hope that helps..
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