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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2009, 03:00:20 pm »
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Moral of the story; If you ride a KTM and aren’t legal, stay away from Mr Sinclair on a Pan European Honda.
I have been pulled over by him many times on the M3 . Last time was about the smaller no plate issue. I am always polite and never wintgat. I explained to him that a standard eating tray no. plate will not last as I do a lot of off rd and that I understand it hat if he gives me a fine he is just doing his job.
I added that I am not a transgressor off the law and he said he knows that  :mwink:
He greeted me shook my hand and said that the Traffic dept are actually after the superbikes.
Moral of the story: Don't have attitude
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2009, 03:05:48 pm »
Depending where and how I am going to ride I remove my plate.

Since I had a tyre to test at over 180km/h  I removed my plate.

With no plate on I bump into yesterday's Beyers Naude road block at the Cresta Mall enroute to Full Throttle. I simply rode past the metro cop that signalled me to stop, turned left at the next street , right at the following and right into Full Throttles walled parking yard. Browsed around for 30 min and went home.

 8)

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« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 03:08:12 pm by Ama ride ride »
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2009, 03:08:57 pm »
Depending where and how I am going to ride I remove my plate.

Since I had a tyre to test at over 180km/h  I removed my plate.

With no plate on I bump into yesterday's Beyers Naude road block at the Cresta Mall enroute to Full Throttle. I simply rode past the metro cop that signalled me to stop, turned left at the next street , right at the following and right into Full Throttles walled parking yard. Browsed around for 30 min and went home.

 8)

B.T.W.........FT is becomming expensive.

Ama, you always have the excuse that you never heard him telling you to stop.... :biggrin:
If you can keep your head in the midst of all this confusion, you don't understand the situation!
 

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2009, 03:12:15 pm »
Depending where and how I am going to ride I remove my plate.

Since I had a tyre to test at over 180km/h  I removed my plate.

With no plate on I bump into yesterday's Beyers Naude road block at the Cresta Mall enroute to Full Throttle. I simply rode past the metro cop that signalled me to stop, turned left at the next street , right at the following and right into Full Throttles walled parking yard. Browsed around for 30 min and went home.

 8)

B.T.W.........FT is becomming expensive.

Ama, you always have the excuse that you never heard him telling you to stop.... :biggrin:

Out of experience I know the judge would ask..."are you saying that you had no idea what a "stop" hand signal means? :biggrin:
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 03:13:15 pm by Ama ride ride »
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2009, 03:20:49 pm »
Depending where and how I am going to ride I remove my plate.

You need one of those flip up/down plates.  ;D
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 03:21:53 pm by Sláinte Mhaith »
 

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2009, 03:21:10 pm »
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Moral of the story; If you ride a KTM and aren’t legal, stay away from Mr Sinclair on a Pan European Honda.
I have been pulled over by him many times on the M3 . Last time was about the smaller no plate issue. I am always polite and never wintgat. I explained to him that a standard eating tray no. plate will not last as I do a lot of off rd and that I understand it hat if he gives me a fine he is just doing his job.
I added that I am not a transgressor off the law and he said he knows that  :mwink:
He greeted me shook my hand and said that the Traffic dept are actually after the superbikes.
Moral of the story: Don't have attitude

I know what pissed him off was not the size; it was that the licence disc and number plate were not exactly the same, that's what got to him... I think.

I was very courteous to him. It was only right at the end that I was commenting on his attitude that it went even further south.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 03:35:19 pm by Kamanya »
I wonder where that gravel road goes? And that, has usually made all the difference. (Apologies to Mr Frost)

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2009, 03:43:58 pm »
Motor vehicle not registered
 R 1 000
 3
 
Motor vehicle not licensed
 R 1 000
 3
 
Operating vehicle with special licence on public road
 R 500
 1
 
Motor vehicle with number plates not SABS approved
 R 500
 1
 
Motor vehicle displaying no number plates
 Court
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Motor vehicle displaying only one number plate
 R 500
 2
 
Motor vehicle with plates not applicable
 Court
 6
 
Motor vehicle with number plate obscured or illegible
 R 250
 0
 
Motor vehicle with both plates obscured or  illegible
 Court
 6
 
Licence disc not displayed
 R 500
 1
 
Licence disc obscured or illegible
 R 500
 1
 
 

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2009, 05:54:50 pm »
Jy ken darem goed die boetes he likkewaan vir n man wat met laserjammers en en en  ry....... :deal: :deal: :thumleft:
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2009, 07:35:33 pm »
Jy ken darem goed die boetes he likkewaan vir n man wat met laserjammers en en en  ry....... :deal: :deal: :thumleft:

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2009, 07:46:29 pm »
Depending where and how I am going to ride I remove my plate.

You need one of those flip up/down plates.  ;D

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2009, 07:55:51 pm »
Why did you ride at 221kph? nah I don't know......
Where is your nr plate? nah I don't know......

Ok, see ya at Germiston Court on Monday! ok, no problem.....

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2009, 08:04:05 pm »

Moral of the story; If you ride a KTM and aren’t legal, stay away from Mr Sinclair on a Pan European Honda.


Yes, I've met him before. Apparently he does not like coloured (yellow/orange) head light protectors...
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2009, 08:25:26 pm »
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Moral of the story; If you ride a KTM and aren’t legal, stay away from Mr Sinclair on a Pan European Honda.
I have been pulled over by him many times on the M3 . Last time was about the smaller no plate issue. I am always polite and never wintgat. I explained to him that a standard eating tray no. plate will not last as I do a lot of off rd and that I understand it hat if he gives me a fine he is just doing his job.
I added that I am not a transgressor off the law and he said he knows that  :mwink:
He greeted me shook my hand and said that the Traffic dept are actually after the superbikes.
Moral of the story: Don't have attitude

I know what pissed him off was not the size; it was that the licence disc and number plate were not exactly the same, that's what got to him... I think.

I was very courteous to him. It was only right at the end that I was commenting on his attitude that it went even further south.

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2009, 08:35:35 am »
Ka-ching!

See, the gods do have a sense of humour. I enter into a number plate discussion a few days ago and look what happens....

There I am doing an errand this morning, decided to take the bike.

As I get onto the M5 I pass a biker cop riding slowly behind another cop car. 1k down the way he pulls me over.

Mmmmm. I could be in trouble for a whole lot more than speeding.

I was travelling pretty quickly but not overly so, about 120 in the 100 zone. He says take, “Take your helmet off”.

He doesn’t say anything more while he inspects my license disc and then goes to the back of the bike. Goes back to the license disc.

“What’s your plate number?”

I repeat the right one. He says, “Correct, but that’s not what’s back there. You not only have a non-SABS approved plate but you are defeating the ends of justice with the wrong last digit”

He says nothing more, but is getting out his book. So with nothing to do while he is writing up all this up I take a walk around his Honda Pan Euro. Nice bike and say so. I notice he seems to have taken a tumble on the left. Looks like it just fell over. I comment on this but he just grunts and starts asking my details.

He says, “Remove your number plate”

Ok, as soon as I get home.

“No, now!”

Nothing for it but to bust it off. It’s bolted on and I didn’t feel like breaking out my tools.

I wander back to him with the bits in my pocket. “I got almost all of it off, just a sliver left”

“Where’s it?”

“Here”, as I pull the pieces out of my jacket pocket and put them back again.

He seems really annoyed, “give them here!”

From here I didn’t quite know what was going to happen and he did seem to write quite a bit down. I even contemplated what I was going to have to say to my wife who would have to come and fetch me from the cop station. I had read somewhere that they impound bikes with false plates on.

Then he read me the ticket.

“Blab la bla... R300.00 Bla bla... and you will have a legal plate on by the end of today!”

I noticed that he was really angry reading this to me. He lips were tight and he was showing classic anger symptoms.

So I said, “You really are quite angry with me aren’t you? I am sorry and apologise, but I am wondering why you would be so worked up about this?”

“You were riding like an idiot and you have an illegal plate”

I let the first accusation slide, it was a perception that I didn’t share, “True, but that’s not a reason to be angry with me?”

He said nothing but was really not looking peaceful. I asked why he stopped me.

“I can stop anyone, and I always stop illegal plated bikes” He hissed.

He was not responding well to this discussion, but seeing as he was starting to boil up and I had only gotten a R300.00 fine (I thought I was going to be in for much much more), I didn’t push my luck anymore and left it at that.

As he was starting up, a bike came past with no plate on.

He didn’t go after him but carried on to the N1?

My take on the whole thing...

I think he just wants to come to the dark side, but can’t afford to yet. You know how I know? He knew the type and model of the bike even with my aftermarket tanks on.

Moral of the story; If you ride a KTM and aren’t legal, stay away from Mr Sinclair on a Pan European Honda.




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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2009, 09:03:32 am »

He says nothing more, but is getting out his book. So with nothing to do while he is writing up all this up I take a walk around his Honda Pan Euro. Nice bike and say so. I notice he seems to have taken a tumble on the left. Looks like it just fell over. I comment on this but he just grunts and starts asking my details.


nice - the oke's writing you a fine and you're commenting on his "off" :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
 

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2009, 09:11:47 am »
That "alternate charge" box, surely its fine 1 and 2 or 3 it is ticked?

Just wondering because I have R500 and R300 and R200 but the box is ticked.
 

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2009, 09:34:51 am »
Date of offence looks like 24 07 2009 to me. So it hasn't happened yet?? Dunno if u can work with this ??

Maybe if you put ypour head in the sand it will just go away!! >:D ;D

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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2009, 09:40:09 am »
Date of offence looks like 24 07 2009 to me. So it hasn't happened yet?? Dunno if u can work with this ??



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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2009, 10:15:25 am »
That "alternate charge" box, surely its fine 1 and 2 or 3 it is ticked?

Just wondering because I have R500 and R300 and R200 but the box is ticked.


Sorry Kamanya, but this is worse than just a R300 fine :
- Charge no. 1 is for the no SABS - R300
- Charge no. 2 if for displaying a false number plate : No A.G. (Admission of guilt) - ie. you must go to court  :-[

The second charge is not an alternate charge, it is an additional charge......

Sorry to be the bearer of sad tidings ......
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Re: The number plate issue
« Reply #79 on: April 15, 2009, 10:30:46 am »
Holy cow!!

Only saw it now also!!

Was wondering why you only got a R300 fine.

Eish buddy, that is a bad one.