To go Armed or Not?

[mountainboy]

wow, that thought never even crossed my mind 

and I grew up in the flats!!!

are things really that bad?

Hey we dont live in Disney Land we live in ZULULAND! 

eish, lemme tell my homies you call them a bunch of mickey mice, they sort your zulu sticks quick quick. Besides, my homies look way uglier than your shield weilding 'kids on the block'

wow, that thought never even crossed my mind 

and I grew up in the flats!!!

are things really that bad?

you got tendencies brutha, you moved to a better place and now only pack KY 


Agree this nonsense have never crossed my mind either.

  dammit, there's no arguing with logic!!!

[Go Big]

Pros and cons.

Can tell you stories of guys having guns that saved their lives while sleeping in tents at a campsite at night on a bike trip. Then it makes sense to have it hey.

Just because you carry it on the bike dont mean you have to only use it there. The same would then apply to "why carry a cell phone on a bike", you might as well not have it cause you cant use it on the bike.

Its a personal thing.

[Rooikat]

Thought about the practicality of carrying while riding/driving a long time ago and came to the logical conclusion.

But when I'm at home, the 9 mil is never more than two steps away and all doors are locked (I live alone). At night, the alarm is on, my bedroom door is locked and the 9 mil under the pillow after the recent break in (while I was away, fortunately).

The most vulnerable time is when I stop to open the gate - try not to drive at night. The street where I live is quiet, with no shelter for potential hijackers. I drive fast and watch my rear view mirror. Following me without being detected is not going to be easy.

Isn't it a disgrace that we have to live like this to stay safe in our lovely country?

[ROOI]

OK were is Shark 

[Andre.Bike]

Must say I carry my 38 when I go on any Trip that is longer than yust to town. I carry it in my backpack. The idea is not to use it while driving, but when I have a flat tyre etc. Better save than sorry.

[Battlestar]

wow, that thought never even crossed my mind  

and I grew up in the flats!!!

are things really that bad?

Hey we dont live in Disney Land we live in ZULULAND!  

eish, lemme tell my homies you call them a bunch of mickey mice, they sort your zulu sticks quick quick. Besides, my homies look way uglier than your shield weilding 'kids on the block'

 
Ia gree. you win

[McOets]

I don't have a gun but if i had one i would always carry it just in case, so now i just carry an expandable batton and backup blade.

[Kenisis]

You guys seriously havent seen any one that has fallen at speed whilst having a Gun on the Hip?

It tears a new arse crevasse  and sadly it doesnt leave any options of stiches as it removes so much skin and meat and fat!


Not Pretty!

[RobC]

It would be good to hear from guys who have been in situations where carrying a firearm was of any use, particularly on a bike. Would pepper-spray not be a better option. No assault charges or police investigations.

depends on whom you spray... Winnie will take exception.

[The Rock]

You guys seriously havent seen any one that has fallen at speed whilst having a Gun on the Hip?

It tears a new arse crevasse  and sadly it doesnt leave any options of stiches as it removes so much skin and meat and fat!


Not Pretty!

was the gun OK? 

[Rider392]

Pros and cons.

Can tell you stories of guys having guns that saved their lives while sleeping in tents at a campsite at night on a bike trip. Then it makes sense to have it hey.

Just because you carry it on the bike dont mean you have to only use it there. The same would then apply to "why carry a cell phone on a bike", you might as well not have it cause you cant use it on the bike.

Its a personal thing.

I agree, very personal. This old saying still makeS a lot of sense today:
I'D RATHER HAVE A GUN AND NOT NEED IT THAN NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT.

[Rags]

Dunno, a family member was hi jacked and shot with his own gun, and he is not some palookah. And apparently this happens quite a bit. I don't think on an adrenaline rush with cloves trying to release or get a gun from somewhere is going to work much better. But to take with you if you go camping could make sense.

[terminator1]

The average man in the street, who if confronted by armed assailants, will probably come off second best, gun or no gun. Actually having a gun may be worse. To aim and shoot with 10cc of adrenalin in your system is a big ask unless you are trained and regularly practised. Then you have the fight or flight factor and the hesitation to kill.

All in all, 99% of gun owners are farked in that situation.

[Chairman Meow]

This whole debate is insane............., funny to read, but still insane.

[GRUNT]

The average man in the street, who if confronted by armed assailants, will probably come off second best, gun or no gun. Actually having a gun may be worse. To aim and shoot with 10cc of adrenalin in your system is a big ask unless you are trained and regularly practised. Then you have the fight or flight factor and the hesitation to kill.

All in all, 99% of gun owners are farked in that situation.

This is so true and unfortunatley the average man/woman does not train or practice regularly but have a false sense of security, thinking the gun will solve all problems. As an instructor I sometimes shudder at the incompetence and handling skills of new students, that being said carrying a handgun is a schlep at the best of times. safekeeping being a priority. I don't carry when on the bike but when my family is with me I'm armed all the time.

[DirtyHarry]

A rifle halter can come handy 

[Dusty Rusty]

Dit laat my nou dink aan Long Way Round en Up toe Charley en Ewan so getrain het vir worst case scenario.

Die onbekende kan n mens nogals katvoet maak...ondervinding in ander se gevalle ook

[2StrokeDan]

I sometimes carry a concealed weapon when touring around on my own. This is for when you set up camp, but also for a case like when my brother was chased on the Bothaville road by some okes in a Cortina 3.0LT, as he was on a Suz GS450 he could not outrun the car and eventually managed to turn up a farmroad and into a field of whatever.

[Buks]

  It's actually a very valid debate or question, but sad that we live in a society where you have to think about these kind of issues. Don't think there's a correct or incorrect answer.....

[Kykdaar]

On a ride once we were passing through a dangerous area close to a township minding our own business when a bunch of a-holes in a car started to deliberately mess with us. It was starting to get dangerous and things were going South in a hurry when one of the guys (he shall remain unamed) zipped open his jacket and reached inside as if going for his piece.

Never saw a golf take off so quickly before

Point is that in that case it served as a deterrent and got us out of a dangerous situation.

I have also broken down, or even just stopped in the sticks and before long someone or a group of misfits comes cruising past. Many times I got the vibe that I was being weighed up and that they wanted to jump my bones. The fact that I am big, fat and generally mean probably counted in my favor.

Maybe it is only a Gauteng thing-who knows. I would, however, rather have an option than just hope for the best.