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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2011, 03:27:26 pm »
Don't carry a gun either, but then again this area is quite safe. Hope it never gets a necessity.
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #81 on: August 04, 2011, 03:29:17 pm »
It's just very sad that we have to have this discussion. The day I feel I have to take a gat on a ride, is the day it's probably time to call it quits in SA. Seriously.

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I have never felt that unsafe in SA that I consided buying a firearm. Maybe I am one of the lucky few.
 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #82 on: August 04, 2011, 03:36:01 pm »
now that we are on this topic - sorry for the hijack - but where do the W Cape dogs buy their ammo. Im looking for .32 ACP - at reasonable price!
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2011, 03:42:10 pm »


Seems we have a few Rambo wannabies on the site. Think those packing heat on rides should rather trade in their DS bike for one of these:



Then you can shoot all the "baddies" while not letting your feet even touch the ground.

That or get a side-car and let your maatjie fire at the bad guys.




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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2011, 03:43:32 pm »
i have a Bernardelli mod.60 7.65mm. similar to Walther PPK. some say its not powerful enough, but its nice and compact.

7,65mm is not bad, just use it with FMJ bullets and not HP's. The hollow points tend to under-penetrate.
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2011, 03:45:45 pm »
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #86 on: August 04, 2011, 03:55:22 pm »
Oh and...



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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #87 on: August 04, 2011, 03:57:37 pm »
Ja, Grrrrr........

If I stayed in the WC I would probably think the same as you do. Most dangerous thing there is climbing on a barstool and burning your fingers braaiing snoek ;)
 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #88 on: August 04, 2011, 04:03:47 pm »
Ja, Grrrrr........

If I stayed in the WC I would probably think the same as you do. Most dangerous thing there is climbing on a barstool and burning your fingers braaiing snoek ;)

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2011, 04:15:25 pm »
Most dangerous thing there is climbing on a barstool and burning your fingers braaiing snoek ;)

Wrong
The most dangerous thing in the Western Cape is kuiering with Luckystriker..

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #90 on: August 04, 2011, 04:24:34 pm »
I don't carry, but I think it would be wise to in some circumstances.

How about a .22 Magnum revolver for carry:

Super concealable!




Any weapon is better than nothing. And Phumba said, a single shot .22 on you is better than a .45 ACP in the safe.

BUT

I am not going into details the best firearm (concealed) for self-defense is the BIGGEST one you are WILLING to carry ON you at ALL times!

I do not like the North American Arms .22lr and .22Mag. There are a few problems with it.
First one is mechanical/design problem. The hammer spring can get dislodged if the firearm is dropped. I had quite a few (more than 10?) customers that had this problem. Some of them said they dropped it others again dropped their handbags with the firearm in it.
Secondly it is a very small firearm to use and is single action (in other words the hammer needs to be cocked manually). Go and try that with one hand, take your time. Still lekker difficult, now try that when the chips are down and you are fighting for your life..............

My friend has one that he carries 95% of the time. Looks smaller than a cellphone or bunch of keys in your pocket.

Have shot with it numerous times and I agree, in order to use effectively you must spend a lot of time with it on the range.
 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2011, 04:30:10 pm »
If you are unsure how to carry when on a bike, take a pillion...

 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2011, 07:20:35 pm »
My friends always comment on my always wearing my 9mm.  :bueller:

But when we break down next to the road, they always stand closer, and quickly ask if I remembered my 9mm. (I drive with the Land Rover guys  :biggrin:)

I carry in my left side pocket of the jacket. Can get to it while riding if pushed. But I would really like a hidden holster on top of my left thigh.

In the left pocket, it cannot really injure me too much in a fall. Tested that theory a few times.

We had a very unpleasant experience before, where a firearm would have swung the balance in our favour, and would have stopped some personal injuries to my friends. Had plenty of time to get to a gun if I had one. But I was alert and saw it coming.

Best advice I got from an instructor: The best way to win a gun fight is to get away from it as fast as possible.  :deal:
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2011, 07:23:02 pm »
don't like guns,
don't own guns.
i think they give you a false sense of security and often bravado.
 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2011, 07:29:21 pm »
don't like guns,
don't own guns.
i think they give you a false sense of security and often bravado.


I agree fully. I wish I had no violent experiences that made me feel like I have to always carry mine.

If a gun gives you bravado, rather don't get one. But it does give me comfort to know that if I cannot run away, I can turn around and fight back.
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2011, 07:45:45 pm »
If you are unsure how to carry when on a bike, take a pillion...



She pointed two 38's at me........she also had two guns :mwink:
 

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2011, 08:39:32 pm »
Manta: "As mentioned by a previous poster a gun fight is not like in the movies in real life.

I was a cop for 6 years and was involved in more than a dozen gun fights. In most cases I knew what was happening before I went in and so was ready.

I also picked up more than one gun owner shot with their own gun. Not because they could not use it, but because they were caught by surprise, outnumbered etc. I am not against guns but just know it is not the be all and end all.

Just to give you and illustration, I was present when a bank robber was shot in the heart, he fired another 30 rounds from his AK47 after the fatal hit before dying. It ain't the movies.

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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2011, 09:08:13 pm »
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #98 on: August 04, 2011, 09:12:08 pm »
Just a comment on the empty gun.
If you pull that you'll still be charged with pointing a firearm, even if it was just a replica.
So be careful with that concept, likely to do more harm than good
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Re: To go Armed or Not?
« Reply #99 on: August 04, 2011, 09:15:38 pm »
Oh ja,for ammo in the western cape, get hold of tatoo on the forum he works for a gunshop.
Otherwise speak to Kobus at VGK in parow. .32acp/765mm is fairly common
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