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Cheated on my partner today...
« on: April 09, 2014, 03:00:14 pm »
So, after 70 000km on my current 2011 GSA, all trouble free, I needed to go to Donford today, had some time to kill and the demo LC 1200GSA was available.

 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 03:02:33 pm »
Whaha, jou daar gesien. Ek het voor jou kom stop op my ou geel 1200gs
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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 03:03:19 pm »
Whaha, jou daar gesien. Ek het voor jou kom stop op my ou geel 1200gs

Gedink ek herken jou  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 03:04:47 pm »
Daai is een stunning bike
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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 03:09:47 pm »
Ja dit is, maar ek is nog nie heeltemal convince nie.
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 03:18:01 pm »
Moet se, ek het ook eers na n maand die LC begin love. Eers na ek alles begin verstaan het....  :imaposer:
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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 03:41:40 pm »
Ja ek is seker my opinie sal met tyd verander, maar dit gaan ook nie oor al die gadgets en settings nie, dit is nie vir my 'n issue nie.

Daar is goed wat ek van hou, goed wat ek nie so baie van hou nie en dan een ding wat my sommer erg afsit.

Onthou ook dat dit net my opinie is, ek het ver oor 100 000km op die vorige modelle gery en maar net 'n kort rukkie met die een gehad, en net 'n baie klein stukkie grondpad

Waarvan hou ek:
- Krag, baie, smooth, en bruikbaar (was teen 60km/u in 5e agter 'n trok en het net versnel om verby te gaan, nie gebodder met afgear nie).
- Looks - die bike lyk beter in lewende lywe as op fotos, en ook nie so erg bulky in lewende lywe as op fotos nie.

Waarvan hou ek nie:
- Clutch is "anders", seker net iets om aan gewoond te raak.
- Looks -  meer "plastic" as die vorige model.
- Die floppy windscreen het regtig hulp nodig, ek sal nie maklik daaraan gewoond raak nie - die stel meganisme is baie cool maar in my opinie flimsy, ek sou 'n stewiger mounting verkies het selfs al het dit soos die ou een verstel.

Waaroor is ek neutraal:
- Is die nuwe ratkas smoother as die vorige een, vir my nie soveel nie, kan maar wees omdat ek myne gewoond is en die nuwe een nie.
- Hantering - is die nuwe een se wielbasis korter as die vorige?  Dit voel en lyk vir my so, en hantering is anders, nie noodwendig beter of slegter nie, maar anders.

Daar is baie op die nuwe een wat anders voel, en wat tyd sal neem om gewoond te raak, en ek dink wel dit is 'n moerse nice bike met baie potensiaal  :thumleft:

Persoonlik dink ek nie die nuwe bike is SOVEEL beter as die vorige een nie, dalk verander my opinie met tyd.

Vir nou sal ek my 2011 nog ry, dit doen wat ek wil he en die prys van R207K vir 'n nuwe skrik my ook nog redelik af - en ek is bang vir my vrou  :biggrin:

Dankie Donford vir die toetsrit, dit het my iets nuuts gegee om oor te dink  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2014, 03:49:59 pm »
So wat is die "een ding wat my sommer erg afsit" dan?
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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2014, 03:53:08 pm »
Seker die prys!
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2014, 03:55:15 pm »
So wat is die "een ding wat my sommer erg afsit" dan?

Die floppy windscreen, dit klink miskien na iets kleins maar vir my is dit 'n deal breaker (dalk as ek langer was en nie heeltyd die verdomde ding sien wobble het nie sou dit minder erg gewees het).

Ek het dit geskuif tot op die laagste setting en dit help, maar nie genoeg nie.
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2014, 03:58:13 pm »
Seker die prys!

If I consider my last GSA was R174K then R207K does bug me quite a bit, but then I also bought that in 2011 so it needs to be taken into account.

Anyway, once my wife sees the price that becomes a showstopper, no negotiation beyond that  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2014, 03:59:51 pm »
So wat is die "een ding wat my sommer erg afsit" dan?

Die floppy windscreen, dit klink miskien na iets kleins maar vir my is dit 'n deal breaker (dalk as ek langer was en nie heeltyd die verdomde ding sien wobble het nie sou dit minder erg gewees het).

Ek het dit geskuif tot op die laagste setting en dit help, maar nie genoeg nie.

Ek is seker daar gaan n midjaar update wees of dalk die volgende shipment sal dit gesort wees. Mens moet wag vir so jaar nog dat BMW nou die masjien kla uitsort en die ryk dogs hom vir ons mooi toets, dan kan die aremer rykes nuwes koop  :)
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 04:02:41 pm »
You guys perhaps know who was there with a yellow gsa with a yellow topbox?
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2014, 04:04:19 pm »
You guys perhaps know who was there with a yellow gsa with a yellow topbox?

No, but it seems there were quite a number of WD's there today...
 

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Re: Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2014, 04:15:17 pm »
Re the clutch....i believe its now a wet clutch?
 

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Re: Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2014, 04:19:54 pm »
Re the clutch....i believe its now a wet clutch?

Yes, which is why it has a different feel (or that is what I think).

The different "feel" to me is not a bad thing, just different and something one will get used to.

This is where it sometimes become difficult to be objective in my opinion, one gets so used to something, my GSA has 70000km on from new (just over 2 1/2 years now) and I am so used to it and comfortable with it.

The only two negatives to me on the new bike is the fact that it seems a bit more "plasticy" (no way to really measure that so very subjective, and the fact that I think the screen is really crap.

I am sure once one owns and rides one it will grow into you (but I am afraid of talking myself into buying one  :imaposer: )
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 06:56:28 pm »
I don't really notice the windscreen anymore. Believe me, best bike I have ever owned. A windscreen is not the end of the world Garfield- certainly some aftermarket will be able to address your concern?

Just buy the damn thing - you will never regret it 😄
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2014, 07:19:24 pm »
I don't really notice the windscreen anymore. Believe me, best bike I have ever owned. A windscreen is not the end of the world Garfield- certainly some aftermarket will be able to address your concern?

Just buy the damn thing - you will never regret it 😄

To me it is an issue, especially on a R207K bike, but that was first impression, who knows what will change over the next few months.

(ek kry mos maar soms so 'n jeukerigheid, dan is enigiets moontlik  :biggrin: )
 

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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2014, 10:23:22 pm »
I don't like the indicator switch on the LC................
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Re: Cheated on my partner today...
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2014, 10:10:38 am »
I don't really notice the windscreen anymore. Believe me, best bike I have ever owned. A windscreen is not the end of the world Garfield- certainly some aftermarket will be able to address your concern?

Just buy the damn thing - you will never regret it 😄

To me it is an issue, especially on a R207K bike, but that was first impression, who knows what will change over the next few months.

(ek kry mos maar soms so 'n jeukerigheid, dan is enigiets moontlik  :biggrin: )

Draadwerk, I think he rode the new GSA and I agree, that for me was the one thing above all I did not like. The screen offers very little protection given the size and really dances around a lot compared with our bikes. Using the same mount on the bigger and heavier screen was clearly not a good idea.

Garfield, regarding handling and wheelbase: by integrating the engine and gearbox BMW managed to lengthen the swing arm but retained the wheelbase.