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More Africa Twin light rumours
« on: March 26, 2020, 01:35:57 pm »
Based of the NC750 platform, will most likely be a 790 cc  ??? Maybe we will see it by September this year.

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 06:35:01 am »
It may be the new Transalp?

Might get here before the Yamaha T7?  :ricky:
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2020, 10:57:53 am »
Really good idea to bring out a smaller AT!
The current bigger one (1100cc) is too big - yes, too, same like a boxer GS, but that was done to steal some of the big GS's limelight so it does make commercial sense.
But too big is too heavy, and the previous 1000cc also is... and here an 800cc version could lessen the mass hence improve maneuverability and therefore make it more attractive to those actually using it offroad - making sense in markets where this will be done, like SA, Oz and the US.

But, knowing Honda it will also be too cumbersome, then add the added weight of the (very good!) DCT.
Likely also too costly, so that leaves the 790 for SA because the T7 does not exist.
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 05:25:30 pm »
Really good idea to bring out a smaller AT!
The current bigger one (1100cc) is too big - yes, too, same like a boxer GS, but that was done to steal some of the big GS's limelight so it does make commercial sense.
But too big is too heavy, and the previous 1000cc also is... and here an 800cc version could lessen the mass hence improve maneuverability and therefore make it more attractive to those actually using it offroad - making sense in markets where this will be done, like SA, Oz and the US.

But, knowing Honda it will also be too cumbersome, then add the added weight of the (very good!) DCT.
Likely also too costly, so that leaves the 790 for SA because the T7 does not exist.

"knowing Honda it will be too cumbersome" said everyone, and then the Africa Twin came out.

If you think the Africa Twin is too cumbersome, quit adventure riding and buy a 250cc plastic IMO, maybe a 450. If you think the Africa twin is not maneuverable just quit riding all together cos there is no hope. If Honda Quest cant convince you of the bikes pedigree and abilities then nothing will..  :peepwall:
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 08:10:57 am »
Honda proofed with the Quest that a cumbersome bike is all you need!
Then they went on to proof with the Tankwa X country that with a restricted 450, you can finish a race and win the goodwill spirit award!
So a restircted 450 is all that you need!
You bunch of infidels you!.... :peepwall:
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 12:59:27 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2020, 01:16:09 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

 :lol8:

On a good stretch of dirt highway, an Africa twin probably isn't cumbersome. :deal:
 

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2020, 01:19:50 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

 :lol8:

On a good stretch of dirt highway, an Africa twin probably isn't cumbersome. :deal:

Nor is a GS  :imaposer:
 

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2020, 07:55:00 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

 :lol8:

On a good stretch of dirt highway, an Africa twin probably isn't cumbersome. :deal:

Nor is a GS  :imaposer:

Reminds me of how extremely narrow a Africa twin is. :pot:
 

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2020, 08:37:51 pm »
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2020, 01:02:57 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

 :lol8:

On a good stretch of dirt highway, an Africa twin probably isn't cumbersome. :deal:

We should ride some single track one day. You bring yours, and I'll bring my Africa Twin. You'll be pleasantly surprised at where it can go.
But, I'm also very cautious to comment about the AT"light" untill I test ride it myself.
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2020, 01:42:35 pm »
..  :peepwall:

.... :peepwall:

.... say two guys who each have a way lighter machine, then hide behind a peepwall.
Wonder why hmm?

 :lol8:

On a good stretch of dirt highway, an Africa twin probably isn't cumbersome. :deal:

We should ride some single track one day. You bring yours, and I'll bring my Africa Twin. You'll be pleasantly surprised at where it can go.
But, I'm also very cautious to comment about the AT"light" untill I test ride it myself.

It's my not being surprised at where it can not go that I am talking about. :thumleft:

I have ridden with guys that has huge ability, and bikes in the region of 200kgs carry their limitations on their sleeves.

Riders do take them into unsuited-for-the-bike places, but it is always a case of; "they are capable for what they are"
 

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 06:27:13 pm »
Riders do take them into unsuited-for-the-bike places, but it is always a case of; "they are capable for what they are"

During our recent Swaziland trip on a bunch of 790's there was also a 1250GS.
Our routes, tracks basically, had been Google-Earth -ed so some surprises had to be present, and of course there were!
As our good luck would have it the most treacherous pieces were downhill, because they'd been nigh on impossible to do uphill.
They were for plastics if not with experienced riders, the 790's were simply out of their habitat in those stretches.
We made it though, some walking, helping and hoisting involved - but what stood out was the guy on the 1250GS made it too, with aplomb even!
He's a big strong bloke, clearly not scared and he can ride, plus, although hardly reckless he's not kinderagtig - he actually needs a new front rim now  ;)

Do I now have to have a holy new respect for the GS-boxers because this guy manhandled his behemoth over the same tracks we did but with smaller bikes?
No Sir, my respect goes to the rider - for he's hardly the rule but an exception!

The eon old adage of  Horses for Courses applies here.
Want to Travel difficult terrain?
Then Travel Light.
'Light' of course is subjective here, but bringing something downright heavy is going to be a self inflicted discomfort if not injury.
Hence my approval of a smaller lighter AT, because it will allow more people to go more remote!  :thumleft:
Again, as said above, this will be only for those markets where offroading is possible and done, because on tar the current AT will be very good no doubt, same like a big GS is.
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2020, 07:22:33 pm »
I think it will be better to get into the garage and get my XR650L motor rebuilt so I can put Africa Twin light rumors to rest. I got 2.6 weeks. Fuck Yamaha for their non-existant T7!
 

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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2020, 07:43:27 pm »
I think it will be better to get into the garage and get my XR650L motor rebuilt so I can put Africa Twin light rumors to rest. I got 2.6 weeks. Fuck Yamaha for their non-existant T7!
Ja... I agree.... Yamaha have lost my interest now with the T7.... They really are taking too long to deliver this model...
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2020, 08:30:42 pm »
Honda will most likely build the Africa Twin light out of Thailand and have no stock shortages
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Re: More Africa Twin light rumours
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2020, 04:02:40 pm »
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